Very late registered players?

[Guillaume Gleize]

Hello,

I know the rooms & casinos have different rules about that but what are your opinion about the registered (or qualified) players that are very late or never arrive?

1) You don't touch their full stacks during x rounds then you retire them (do you pay back those who paid?)
2) You blind off their stacks during x rounds then you retire them (do you pay back those who paid?)
2) You blind off their stacks until they are eliminated (so you identify each stack with a name?) 

TY in advance - GG

[Guillaume Gleize]

No answer? Nobody?

[Max D]

Guillaume

- Blind off their stack until the end of re-buys (this is our line in the sand for people to show-up), and then remove the remainder of the stack off the table.
- I have registered players, but not pre-paid so I dont have an answer to paying back players or not.

Max

[Dave Miller]

I have my own opinions, but mind you, I deal and run a bar league.

But as a player, here's what I assume are the rules for casino poker tournaments:

Once a player pays, his stack is in play and should be blinded out and continues to be blinded out until he is out of chips. No refunds, and if still absent, will automatically lose their last hand.

You never know why the player is missing and cannot make decisions based on assumptions. Suppose you assume he's a no-show, but shows up 2 minutes after removing his chips? What then? What if he shows up 15 minutes after?

The only time refunds are acceptable is if a player requests one before the tourney starts, or an alternate player requests it before they get a seat. And even then, rules may dictate no refunds.

While it's unlikely, if the action is wild and enough players get eliminated so that the money bubble bursts before a no-show player busts out, the no-show player is entitled to their fair payout at whatever position they are finally eliminated.



For the record, in our bar league, we play short-stack turbo games that last a little over an hour, and we get in three per night. Call-ins are not allowed due to too many times a call-in becomes a no-show. While there is no charge to play, we never put out stacks for players until they arrive at the venue. We guarantee seating through two levels. Players get points based on their bust out position on the final table.

In cases where attendance is low so that there is only one table, and a player arrives before the third level, but after someone else has already busted out, rather than changing the sign-out positions of those that already busted out, the late player can play as a bounty.

Such a bounty is worth the same number of points as fourth place - but there's a twist. To give the bounty player incentive to play well, if he survives to go heads up, he will get the bounty points, and still be a bounty.

I.E. Once heads up, the bounty player gets bounty points while the other player gets first place points, and they continue to play with additional bounty points on the line to go to the winner.

It gets confusing when there are multiple bounty players, but you get the idea.

[Guillaume Gleize]

TY very much for your help gentlemen!
For us we use to do the #2 but we wanted to check around.
For information in France many casinos use the rule #1
Take care and let's shut up & deal! 

[WSOPMcGee]

Guillaume,
Ideally, never put the stack in play and resale the seat to a player ready to play and place other player in late registration alternate line if possible. I would say most tournaments don't have this ability. Three things are accomplished - 1) Extra chips never go into play  2) Seat is immediately resold to late registration player 3) Easily identify's no show player who pre-registered and allows for player to be refunded.
Second best option is your #2 example and yes you give them a refund as well.

[Guillaume Gleize]

Guillaume,
Ideally, never put the stack in play and resale the seat to a player ready to play and place other player in late registration alternate line if possible. I would say most tournaments don't have this ability. Three things are accomplished - 1) Extra chips never go into play  2) Seat is immediately resold to late registration player 3) Easily identify's no show player who pre-registered and allows for player to be refunded.
Second best option is your #2 example and yes you give them a refund as well.

TY for the answer!
About the circumstances in which our tournaments are played > These are large freerolls tournaments in self-dealing but from online room qualifications (Winamax) with 500 to 2500 players in the big room, millions euros to be won in the final (communication investment ) and about 1 floor manager for 10 tables (!) > So we can't afford too much manipulations of chips when players arrive one by one! So the chips are already on the table. And for the moment we are taking the blinds off (to motivate the players to arrive on time) but the disadvantage is that if they do not come we have to recover different reduced stacks which is hard to count & check in the chiproom. Not taking the blinds would allow better counting but more late players ... So we are still hesitating ...